That HE Might Come Forth

 with George W Tyler

March 2012

Deceptions

Is it just me or are we seeing many more “issues” in the Body of Christ today; are things actually getting worse; or maybe it is just that, as we get older, we understand more?

I think it is like this; I see others in deception, sometimes even deep deception; and I know that I don’t have those particular deceptions… I am certain I don’t… nor do I have the other deception I see in other church organizations… funny that! Isn’t it! But then I think… Hey if THEY are so blind to THEIR deceptions… maybe just maybe; I am also in deception of one sort or another… as it seems inconceivable that I would be the only one without deception.

So I guess it is each to their own deception then? What is the truth around this?

Here is the truth… WE, plural, have the mind, (understanding; knowledge etc.) singular, of Christ. So ONLY when WE become ONE with Him AND ONE WITH EACH OTHER can we see the true truth!

It pains me to see the deceptions others are under… and yet if I look at it logically I MUST conclude that I also may (as impossible as it seems to me) be completely deceived in some areas.

However, although I have had at least SOME opportunities and “openings” to assist in “enlightening” (if I may use that term) some people… I don’t believe I have had any such opening with MANY… and that pains me and I weep for them and for me… them because they don’t and can’t see what I see… and me because I have failed them. Many have gone thru such pain and heart ache some even just within their family situation.

It’s like this… I find that I cannot effectively share what truth I have within me with others so I am scared to even try in case I don’t do it right and they reject it as “just another opinion” and not as “thus says the Lord” then I can never say it again so I would have to speak in parables.

The things that most say is gobbled gook to me. About following this mighty man of God or the other; following “the” man of the hour or “this” move of God or “that” move of God.

I was fortunate that I never followed a man… as when I was saved it was soon shown to me that WE ALL Follow Christ and NOT man.

The thing is this… I was so “hooked into the Lord” when I first got saved that I couldn’t get side tracked with anyone’s fancy words.

And while I didn’t know the word all that well at that time… I always, I believe, had good discernment… Like, I think I just kind of knew when the Lord was speaking and when it was something else. So in a way I was isolated and insulated from that other stuff as I didn’t follow this man or that man, as many did… and they went through some crazy stuff… and I think MANY were “damaged” some seriously damaged.

Later, much later, I could at last possibly at least start to understand what others went through… because I have seen and experienced some strange stuff myself now… and it all comes down to this… Um I’m battling to find the best way of putting it so you truly understand.  Let me just use some words…  “Leading”… “Serving”… etc.

The thing is this…  to me all that is all rubbish… the only thing is: Love and Unity… I find if I concentrate on truly loving others and remaining one with them… that there is nothing else to do… because if I really love you and I am determined to maintain unity with you… then I will consider you and your needs higher than my own… so your well-being etc. will be more important than my own… so then I will do whatever I can to “die” to my own needs so that Christ may come forth in me for YOUR sake. Because the BEST of me that I can offer you is LESS of me; but also then MORE of Christ. Then it is Christ that does the work etc. It is Christ that YOU see in me and it is Christ in me also then who can minister to your needs etc.

So I guess the deepest deception is where we think it is anything MORE than that… when we believe we have a task that is “greater” than that. Because then we say we have a task greater than Christ… then we are in deep deception. When we believe WE have something to offer others besides what Christ offered… that is; Not My will but Your will Oh Lord.

Paul said it real simple… Christ in YOU the Hope of Glory. He was saying hey don’t look at us apostles/leaders etc. for the answer… the answer lies within ALL of us believers manifesting the Glory of God… and this is NOT establishing a PHYSICAL kingdom ruling and reining over others (within and without) that is… as leaders within the church and as super “God appointed” “God anointed” “Uber” Masters of the World… that’s not what it is all about, because that immediately changes our attitude to those who we see as “Under” us.

We have to all be “under” in all ways but mainly in heart attitude… This is what I have seen in a few others in their attitude to me (and to others) but many; many are “damaged” from something; some things that they went through while “under” others…

And that happens a lot in the body and I believe it relates to that scripture: “The kingdom of God suffers violence and violent men take it by force”…and that is NOT a good thing… but a BAD thing. Christians try to kill Christians all the time thinking they are doing God a favor… doing exactly what they believe God requires of them (even what GOD DEMANDS of them…) Yet every now and then I saw in others something else; others showed me another way…

When they had “The Mind of Christ” re something and, for example, their wife said something else, or just stubbornly it seemed to me, said “NO” they didn’t just “Establish the Kingdom by Force” but rather by another, unseen/invisible, way… while still maintaining both Love and Unity…  a different, much more difficult path… impossible to see with natural eyes and impossible to achieve “in the Flesh!”

The thing is this; the “world” (and even many in the church) cannot see that, so cannot see; can NEVER see; what the Lord is actually doing… cannot see who is actually who in the Kingdom of God….  so no man can boast…  that’s why someone was horrified when I shared a dream with them… that in my innocence I didn’t really understand… well, several dreams in fact…  that showed how Christians interact; inspiring one another… where in our “fellowship” with one another we find the Lord and hence our inspiration… that message we will preach next Sunday; that solution to that problem we or others have etc.

But I don’t think he wanted to accept that… or could accept that fact… that we need each other. That in fact we are useless if we don’t “work” together as HE decides, with whom HE decides… and that is not just me and my Jesus… or worse just me and my bible… or worse still; just me:  “Mike’s Ministries Inc.”  As soon as there is even a hint of that we have failed.

So who can accept this? Who can say I can’t even breathe without my Brother? Who can accept that I cannot even choose my brother? Who can accept that God only sees our WORST relationship… our WORST interaction with others… and THAT is the TRUE indication, to Him, of how we are “doing”… of, in fact, our true relationship with HIM… and that it is NOT all MY fancy preaching; MY laying hands on the sick and they recover; or even raising the dead… but how we treat the LEAST of those who HE calls His.

So many words… But it all comes down to this:

“Love and Unity

I suppose another way of putting it is this… As soon as I believe it is “Christ in ME the Hope of Glory”… Then I have taken the wrong turn… then I will do the violent thing… because I am one hundred percent sure it relies on ME and not you… and maybe not even Him!

This then is Deep Deception: When we believe we have something to offer… when we believe WE can DO anything other than die daily so that:

HE Might Come Forth!

Reference: http://www.e-sword.net/

AMEN!

 

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with George W Tyler
March 2012

Is it just me or are we seeing many more “issues” in the Body of Christ today; are things actually getting worse; or maybe it is just that, as we get older, we understand more?

I think it is like this; I see others in deception, sometimes even deep deception; and I know that I don’t have those particular deceptions… I am certain I don’t… nor do I have the other deception I see in other church organizations… funny that! Isn’t it! But then I think… Hey if THEY are so blind to THEIR deceptions… maybe just maybe; I am also in deception of one sort or another… as it seems inconceivable that I would be the only one without deception.

So I guess it is each to their own deception then? What is the truth around this?

Here is the truth… WE, plural, have the mind, (understanding; knowledge etc.) singular, of Christ.

So ONLY when WE become ONE with Him AND ONE WITH EACH OTHER can we see the true truth!

It pains me to see the deceptions others are under… and yet if I look at it logically I MUST conclude that I also may (as impossible as it seems to me) be completely deceived in some areas.

However, although I have had at least SOME opportunities and “openings” to assist in “enlightening” (if I may use that term) some people… I don’t believe I have had any such opening with MANY… and that pains me and I weep for them and for me… them because they don’t and can’t see what I see… and me because I have failed them. Many have gone thru such pain and heart ache some even just within their family situation.

It’s like this… I find that I cannot effectively share what truth I have within me with others so I am scared to even try in case I don’t do it right and they reject it as “just another opinion” and not as “thus says the Lord” then I can never say it again so I would have to speak in parables.

The things that most say is gobbled gook to me. About following this mighty man of God or the other; following “the” man of the hour or “this” move of God or “that” move of God.

I was fortunate that I never followed a man… as when I was saved it was soon shown to me that WE ALL Follow Christ and NOT man.
The thing is this… I was so “hooked into the Lord” when I first got saved that I couldn’t get side tracked with anyone’s fancy words.

And while I didn’t know the word all that well at that time… I always, I believe, had good discernment… Like, I think I just kind of knew when the Lord was speaking and when it was something else. So in a way I was isolated and insulated from that other stuff as I didn’t follow this man or that man, as many did… and they went through some crazy stuff… and I think MANY were “damaged” some seriously damaged.

Later, much later, I could at last possibly at least start to understand what others went through… because I have seen and experienced some strange stuff myself now… and it all comes down to this… Um I’m battling to find the best way of putting it so you truly understand. Let me just use some words… “Leading”… “Serving”… etc.

The thing is this… to me all that is all rubbish… the only thing is: Love and Unity… I find if I concentrate on truly loving others and remaining one with them… that there is nothing else to do… because if I really love you and I am determined to maintain unity with you… then I will consider you and your needs higher than my own… so your well-being etc. will be more important than my own… so then I will do whatever I can to “die” to my own needs so that Christ may come forth in me for YOUR sake. Because the BEST of me that I can offer you is LESS of me; but also then MORE of Christ. Then it is Christ that does the work etc. It is Christ that YOU see in me and it is Christ in me also then who can minister to your needs etc.

So I guess the deepest deception is where we think it is anything MORE than that… when we believe we have a task that is “greater” than that. Because then we say we have a task greater than Christ… then we are in deep deception. When we believe WE have something to offer others
besides what Christ offered… that is; Not My will but Your will Oh Lord.

Paul said it real simple… Christ in YOU the Hope of Glory. He was saying hey don’t look at us apostles/leaders etc. for the answer… the answer lies within ALL of us believers manifesting the Glory of God… and this is NOT establishing a PHYSICAL kingdom ruling and reining over others (within and without) that is… as leaders within the church and as super “God appointed” “God anointed” “Uber” Masters of the World… that’s not what it is all about, because that immediately changes our attitude to those who we see as “Under” us.

We have to all be “under” in all ways but mainly in heart attitude… This is what I have seen in a few others in their attitude to me (and to others) but many; many are “damaged” from something; some things that they went through while “under” others… And that happens a lot in the body and I believe it relates to that scripture: “The kingdom of God suffers violence and violent men take it by force”…and that is NOT a good thing… but a BAD
thing. Christians try to kill Christians all the time thinking they are doing God a favor… doing exactly what they believe God requires of them (even what GOD DEMANDS of them…)

Yet every now and then I saw in others something else; others showed me another way… When they had “The Mind of Christ” re something and, for example, their wife said something else, or just stubbornly it seemed to me, said “NO” they didn’t just “Establish the Kingdom by Force” but rather by another, unseen/invisible, way… while still maintaining both Love and Unity… a different, much more difficult path… impossible to see with natural eyes and impossible to achieve “in the Flesh!”

The thing is this; the “world” (and even many in the church) cannot see that, so cannot see; can NEVER see; what the Lord is actually doing… cannot see who is actually who in the Kingdom of God…. so no man can boast… that’s why someone was horrified when I shared a dream with
them… that in my innocence I didn’t really understand… well, several dreams in fact… that showed how Christians interact; inspiring one another… where in our “fellowship” with one another we find the Lord and hence our inspiration… that message we will preach next Sunday; that solution to that problem we or others have etc.

But I don’t think he wanted to accept that… or could accept that fact… that we need each other. That in fact we are useless if we don’t “work” together as HE decides, with whom HE decides… and that is not just me and my Jesus… or worse just me and my bible… or worse still; just me:
“Mike’s Ministries Inc.” As soon as there is even a hint of that we have failed.

So who can accept this? Who can say I can’t even breathe without my Brother? Who can accept that I cannot even choose my brother? Who can accept that God only sees our WORST relationship… our WORST interaction with others… and THAT is the TRUE indication, to Him, of how we are
“doing”… of, in fact, our true relationship with HIM… and that it is NOT all MY fancy preaching; MY laying hands on the sick and they recover; or even raising the dead… but how we treat the LEAST of those who HE calls His.
So many words… But it all comes down to this:

“Love and Unity”

I suppose another way of putting it is this… As soon as I believe it is “Christ in ME the Hope of Glory”… Then I have taken the wrong turn… then I will do the violent thing… because I am one hundred percent sure it relies on ME and not you… and maybe not even Him!

This then is Deep Deception: When we believe we have something to offer… when we believe WE can DO anything other than die daily so that:

HE Might Come Forth!

Reference: http://www.e-sword.net/

AMEN!

Knowing God’s Heart – Knowing My Own Heart

with George W Tyler
Jan 2009

There is one scripture (John 21:15-22) which puzzled me, and when this happens to me I always ask the Lord, “What’s going on here?” And this is what He showed me:

When I first read it, to me it said:
Jesus: Peter, do you Love Me?
Peter: Yes Lord, I Love You.
Jesus: Feed My Sheep.
Jesus: Peter, do you Love Me?
Peter: Yes Lord, I Love You.
Jesus: Feed My Sheep.
Jesus: Peter, do you Love Me?
Peter: Yes Lord, You Know I Love You.

(by now I was sensing that Peter was getting rather annoyed! Why is Jesus just repeating himself?)

Jesus: Feed My Sheep.

Now that’s a rather repetitive, boring conversation and I wondered, “Now what’s up with that?”

The Lord has since shown me that in that conversation the word “Love” is used 6 times and “Feed” and “Sheep” are used 3 times each.
But in the original Greek text there are two different types of Love used, Agape (the high level, Godly kind of Love) and Philios (a lower kind of love better translated as “like” for example “I love like ice cream.” The original Greek also shows subtle differences in the words “sheep” and “feed” as well.

So NOW here is my new understanding of that conversation:

Jesus: Peter, do you Love Me with a Godly kind of Love, more than the other disciples love me?
Peter: Yes Lord, I like You.
Jesus: Teach My newly converted (Christian) ones.
Jesus: Peter, do you Love Me with a Godly kind of Love?
Peter: Yes Lord, I like You.
Jesus: Lead and Guide my Entire (Christian) Flock (Church)
Jesus: Peter, so do you only (just) LIKE Me?
Peter: Yes Lord, You Know ALL things, You Know I only (just) like you, (sorry).

(by now I was sensing that Peter was really humbled! Jesus could seen right inside Peter’s heart and Petr could now see WHY he (Peter) had denied Christ, it was simply because Peter did NOT TRULY and FULLY Love the Lord with that kind of sacrificial kind of Godly Love.)

Jesus: (That’s OK! I still want you to) Teach the more mature (Christian) leaders as well – (and you will grow to love me with a Godly kind of love as you continue to do this!)

The essence of the entire Bible is showing God’s Heart towards Mankind. However many complain about all the death and destruction seen in the Old Testament and try to blame God for it. But, in reality, this death and destruction only came in when satan decided he wanted to be at least equal to God if not higher.

The truth is that the total Bible is a Love Story… Initially showing the relationship between God and mankind represented by Adam… and then after the Fall… the relationship between God and Israel… then later the relationship between Jesus Christ and us His Bride, His Church and culminating in the restoration of the original relationship between God and Mankind once more.

It all starts out with God being ALL (everything) in ALL (everyone) and ends up once again with God being ALL (everything) in ALL (everyone).

Don’t think for one second that God enjoys death in any shape or form… no death entered in when Adam sinned by following Eve’s example… Eve was deceived… but Adam wilfully sinned… and from that moment God did what He had to do to minimize the impact of what satan had done.

See it from God’s point of view. It is like a Husband, who is also a surgeon, cutting out cancer from his own wife’s body… do you think he takes pleasure in each stroke of the scalpel, in each sizzle of the cauterizing blade? NO, in NO way… but he cuts away large parts of her body to preserve the spark of life until the permanent solution, brought by Jesus is come.

So why didn’t God just wave His magic wand and fix it from the beginning? Several reasons, one being He gave us free will… who wants a wife who is your wife just because you force her to be your wife… No true man/husband would want that, neither does God.

But why then does He bring death if we sin? Well that is not accurate… to be accurate He is saying to us “HEY, I made you, I know exactly what you need and don’t need… if you have sin in your life it will kill you maybe not instantaneously but its like you are a dead man walking.”

Its like a manufacture of a motor vehicle saying; “DON’T, whatever you do put sugar in your petrol tank, your car will surely be destroyed… it may take a while but once that sugar is in and you drive the car like that, it is a dead car driving.”

But you know the story, satan, wanting to get back at God, goes through his bride, mankind, and even then he didn’t mess with Adam directly, he went via HIS wife as well, with his ‘sweet talking’ lies… likewise with Israel. Even now, with us, he brings the same lies, (he is a one trick pony) so he comes again against the woman that’s us, Christ’s Bride.

I’ll stop now, but here is the take away: God takes NO JOY in death and destruction, He NEVER said to Noah… “Yippee I’m ganna kill all those SOBs, happy day!” NO, it was with heavy heart that he explained that that cancer must go… likewise with Sodom and Gomorrah etc and etc.

If we get inside His Head; His Heart; His Spirit… and see things from HIS perspective we will see that EVERYTHING He does is in and through LOVE. He is FOR us and NOT against us! WE, mankind, WILLINGLY sinned…. HE, God, WILLINGLY, sacrificed His only begotten Son to take on the inevitable outcome of our sin… that is… Eternal Death… and in exchange He gives us Eternal Life! How Great is our God! Amen.

 The Kingdom of God is not about being Right or Wrong

with George W Tyler

Aug 2010

 

Abide in Me

The trip to Youth of the Nation this year was Great, God really met with the Youth, and he also met with all of us adults that went along to help as well.

For me it was a bit weird, it was like I knew the Lord was trying to show me something that was wrong in my attitude and in my walk with Him that was hindering my ability to be more effective in His Kingdom, but it’s like I couldn’t quite get it. And when we finally got back home on that Sunday night I said to my wife, “Wow the Lord really met with us all over these few days but its like, I know he has really been speaking with me but I’m not quite sure exactly what he has been saying.” She said she felt the same, so we prayed about it and went to bed.

The next morning a strange thing happened, The other driver and I had taken the hired vans and trailers home as it was decided that was the safest option and so we were going to drop the two vans off back at Church in the morning for the hire company to pick up. Now we had filled the vans up on the way down, but as I drove along to Church that morning I noticed that the fuel gauge was a bit off the full mark and as we had to give the vans back with reasonably full tanks I decided to go past the garage to top up, but I was debating with myself, but what about the other van maybe it’s better that they are the same and not one full and the other just off full, but if I don’t top up then maybe the other driver will top up and then they will be different again, and what about paying for the fuel? What is the right thing to do? Eventually I gave up debating and prayed and went to the Garage putting the outcome in Gods Hand.

Wow it was amazing… as I pulled up I saw the other van there and the other driver came over, I was kind of amazed and stunned and we filled up together and when I went in to pay I found that the other driver had already paid, so we went off together and dropped the vans off at Church. I went off from there to catch the bus and then the train to go to work. I got onto the last coach of the train and sat on the little fold down seat that faces out back.

While I was sitting there pondering all that had happened over the last week or so, three things happened, the sun came up directly in front of me, a great peace came over me, and the Lord spoke to me, tying together not only what he had been trying to speak to me over that last week, but what he had been trying to speak to me over the last few decades as well.

It all came together for me on that Monday Morning in complete Peace, I felt in full Unity with God and with Gods People. And this is in essence what he told me:

The Kingdom of God is not about being Right or Wrong, the Kingdom of God is all about being in the Holy Spirit, in Christ, in Love, in Unity and in Harmony with one another.

This is HIS LIFE, this is TRUE CHURCH LIFE, this is the NORMAL CHRISTIAN LIFE we are supposed to LIVE.

Living in perfect Harmony with one another with One Heart and One Mind and One Spirit Which is Christ in Us the Hope of His Coming Glory.

Judging Between Right and Wrong – Judging the Motives of Peoples Heart is NOT what it is all about. We are NOT called to Judge one another but to prefer one another. Considering others better than ourselves, this is the Mind of Jesus Christ.

We are ONE Mind – Christ’s Mind, One Heart – Christ’s Heart, One Body – Christ’s Body, One Spirit – Christ’s Spirit, which is God’s Spirit, which is the Holy Spirit.

But the problem is this: I find myself in the same dilemma that Paul found himself in. The Good I know I should be doing I do not do. And the bad I know I should not be doing I find myself doing. Woe is me, who can rescue me from this body of sin?

Romans 8 has put me straight:

Rom 8:14-18 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back into fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption as sons, by whom we cry, “Abba! Father!” The Spirit himself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God, and if children, then heirs – heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him in order that we may also be glorified with him. For I consider that the sufferings of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us.

Lots of us suffer from the curse of self preservation, we believe we are the ones that are right, we believe we have something worth preserving, something of value, we believe we have something to offer to others, but the truth is this, as Christians, the only thing worthwhile that we have to offer others is Christ. It is Christ in us which is the Hope of Glory, the hope of not only all of All Mankind but All of Creation as well, and all of Creation Groans as if it is in childbirth, waiting for US to take our correct place as sons of God as it is Christ in Us that will finally bring things back to where they were meant to be…

Rom 8:19-23 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God.  For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation has been groaning together in the pains of childbirth until now. And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first-fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies.

But the problem is this: our natural instinct for self preservation prevents us from being who He means us to be and we must fight against it. It rears its ugly head all the time. It not about being Right or Wrong, it is about being in Love and in Unity.

We need to be in Christ, in Spirit, in Love, in Unity, in Harmony and that is with one another, considering the other better than ourselves.

It’s NOT about having the correct doctrine etc. or even about being “Right” it is all about Loving one another and being in Unity being One despite our differences even when I know you are “wrong” and I am “right” that is NOTHING it is meaningless it is all up the wrong tree! Judging from the Tree of Death, the tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, of judging between right or wrong.

Being up the correct tree is me considering that you, the one who is obviously, to me, “wrong” is better than me, the one who is obviously, to me “right”. Then God makes the right, wrong and the wrong, right.

This happens to me all the time now and I don’t like it, it is hard to fight against the instinct of self preservation hard to stop eating from the tree of death and start living by the tree of Life which is Jesus, and it’s all related to ego and pride etc.

It’s like hard to be humble when you think you are perfect in every way and when you think you are always right!

But the thing is this… there IS one who is always righter and one who is always perfecter! No matter how right or perfect I think I am.

And He puts the proud down and lift up the humble. God does not say, choose the correct tree because it is the “good” one, He say, “I am the correct tree, Choose Me, Choose Life, Abide in Me”

So even if I AM perfect… Even if I AM right… It is still all WRONG and just DUNG, if I am not in Love, in Unity etc. All Dung!

You need FIRST to abide in HIM, The Tree of Life, and then He makes whatever you do, whatever you say etc. perfect and right even if it is not perfect or right… it becomes perfect and right because it is now coming from the source of all that is GOOD, God Himself. So if you abide in Him and He abides in you then you can do and say no wrong.

This is the secret that no demon can EVER know.

This is the secret that the Devil himself can never understand.

This is the path that no fowl can ever follow! That no vulture’s eye has ever seen.

THIS is the path that leads to GLORY!

Because being “right” but not being in HIM who is LOVE is being WRONG!

But even being “wrong” yet abiding in HIM who is LOVE is being RIGHT!

So Abide in him, the true vine and your Joy will be complete and you, the branches will bear much fruit, as you abide in Him and draw from the Life that is in Him and this is Resurrected, Uncreated, Spirit Life, the very Nature of God, that leads to Everlasting Life, and the fruits that you bear will be the Fruit of the Spirit which are Joy, Peace, Long Suffering etc. etc. and these fruit will and can do no harm, but only good. And they will feed the nations.

But we first need to be blended together as One, then we are put into the Fire and baked so that our nature is changed, so that we may become palatable and be spread with butter, that is the oil of the Anointing of the Holy Spirit, and presented to the world to feed the nations.

There are two trees in the Garden of Eden: There is the Tree of Life in which the life that flows is the Spirit of God, and if we are grafted into or get grafted into that tree we can live by that Life, live by that spirit, The Holy Spirit, The Spirit of God and have everlasting life.

But if we stay grafted into, and try to live by the spirit that is in the other tree, then we will have everlasting death. So how do we know which tree we are grafted into?

Well that is easy because both of these trees are fruit trees and a fruit tree is known by the fruit its branches produce.

So if we, the branches, are producing fruit that lines up with the nature of God, the spirit of God then we are grafted into the correct tree, and we will reap abundant and everlasting Life, and peace and Joy and Patience etc, all the Fruit of the Holy Spirit.

But if we are producing fruit that line up with the nature, or spirit of Satan, then we are grafted into the wrong tree, and we will reap corruption and death, and that is everlasting death, and anger and strife and envy and all those other Fruit of the Flesh nature.

Even Still I find myself up the wrong tree, judging what is right and wrong, striving to choose the right thing to do in each situation, choosing this, or that, as the right thing to do, but the truth is that the only choice we can make is to be part of, or to be grafted into, the Tree of Life, sucking the juice from the source of all Life, which is Jesus and living 24/7/365 by His Holy Spirit.

It’s all about having the Correct Attitude. “Having this mind in me that is in Christ.” As it says in Philippians 2 Where Paul Says:

Phi 2:1 If there be therefore any consolation in Christ, if any comfort of love, if any fellowship of the Spirit, if any bowels and mercies,

Phi 2:2 Fulfill ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

Phi 2:3 Let nothing be done through strife or vainglory; but in lowliness of mind let each esteem the other better than themselves.

Phi 2:4 Look not every man on his own things, but every man also on the things of others.

Phi 2:5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Phi 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

Phi 2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Phi 2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Phi 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:

Phi 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Phi 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Phi 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Phi 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

Phi 2:14 Do all things without murmurings and disputings:

Phi 2:15 That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

Phi 2:16 Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain.

We are Eagles not fowls that scratch around in the dirt of this earth, or vultures who eat dead meat fighting each other for the last morsel of rotten flesh. No we are Eagles who stretch out our wings and soar being lifted on the winds of His Spirit never touching the dirt. We have Hinds feet which find a path no other can follow, that see a path where others just see barriers. And the path we follow is the path that leads to Love, Life’s Highest Gain.

You see we just read in Phi 2:13 that it is God Himself who comes Both to will and to perform his will in us, there is nothing we need do except believe accept and be grateful. (Do you want to be saved/healed/set free?)

ALL of Mankind is saved, they just don’t know it yet. And who will tell them? And how will they know? Who will show them the Kingdom of God? That they might also believe and be saved.

Their only hope is the Christ that Lives in Us, We are carrying in us the Hope of all Mankind the hope of All Creation, the Hope of God’s Glory, of Gods Kingdom Come here on earth as it is in Heaven. God in His Almighty wisdom has decided, has chosen, to put this Hope, His Life in us.

God is Love and the fruit of the Holy Spirit is Love. We cannot please God without having His Love in our hearts. “Whoever does not love does not know God.”

The Basic Message of the Gospel is Love and Humility, not Knowledge and Understanding. It is not about having all the knowledge and all the answers, and doing all the right things, Paul when he was still called Saul did all the right things according to the best he knew how and he ended up killing Christians. It’s all about the Spirit that you do and say things through. If it is not Gods Holy Spirit of LOVE working in and through you, then all your knowledge and answers and things you do “for God” no matter how correct they are, are worthless.

God’s Wisdom is Pure and brings peace not heated arguments and confusion. It is considerate, gentle and understanding of others shortcomings. It also helps us to be easily corrected when needed.

So the thing we need to do is this… Be Grafted into the TREE OF LIFE… Then let that life flow through you, then it will (must by its nature) produce leaves and Fruit….

And the people will come, pick and eat of the tree. And the Lord will come and hang gifts on the branch (you) and these gifts are also for the people. It can’t get simpler than that! So all we need do is: ABIDE in the Tree of Life – Christ!

Gal 2:19-20 (MSG) What actually took place is this: I tried keeping rules and working my head off to please God, and it didn’t work. So I quit being a “law man” so that I could be God’s man. Christ’s life showed me how, and enabled me to do it. I identified myself completely with him. Indeed, I have been crucified with Christ. My ego is no longer central. It is no longer important that I appear righteous before you or have your good opinion, and I am no longer driven to impress God. Christ lives in me. The life you see me living is not “mine,” but it is lived by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.

Jesus said to His apostles: “Come – Follow Me!” He never asked if they would like to follow Him.

It is a Command – not a request!

Reference: http://www.e-sword.net/

AMEN!

Every Joint Supplies – Many Membered Body

(with George W Tyler)

Sept 2011

Every Joint Supplies
It is every JOINT that supplies what is needed to build up the body.  The Body, as we know and understand, is made up of many parts. It is a Many Membered Body, and each of us are members in particular.

Where the Joints are, where the Body is fitly joined together, is where the Blessing is; where the Glory is; where the Anointing is; where Christ is; where we will find Jesus. So Where/ When two or more members of His Body are gathered together; there He is in the Midst of them, that is, in the Relationship; in the Conversation; in the Fellowship; in the Joint, where these separate Members meet/ come together. So from within the interaction of the Saints flow the Revelation; the Blessing; the Anointing; Christ… There HE is in the Midst of them!

And we all want More of Christ, Right? Well there, is where we will find Him; in our Interaction with one another; so there, is where we need to do the work; where we need to make a BIG effort in building and strengthening that “Joint” so that both we and the Whole Body may be Blessed and finally Glorified. But joints need certain things to be healthy and well operational. Firstly they need to be well fitted together. Each bone has another bone that is a correct match for it. Also each finger for example is made up of several joints and each hand is made up of several different fingers.

You don’t have a hand of five thumbs, or a hand of five middle fingers etc. that would be silly and unworkable. But yet we find in the body today Pastors, Pastors and more Pastors, with some churches having a whole hand-full of pastors. But you don’t have four eyes and no ears in your body, that doesn’t make sense.

However we do have only ONE Head, Christ. And when the Body is separated from, or not perfectly connected to, the Head we have a Big Problem. And where the parts of the body want to start taking over control and run the entire Body on their own terms, with their own Agenda, we also have a Big Problem. Why?

Well let’s say the ears want to take over control, what would happen? Firstly ears have a stereo sense so they can tell more or less where a sound is coming from, left, right, front, back and maybe even a few points in between, so that’s good. However, if we consider the full range of senses available, touch, sight, taste etc. we can see that the sense of hearing covers only a very limited spectrum of the total available inputs, so it’s very limiting.

So if the ears were to disregard all other inputs and try to direct the rest of the body using only their own perspective of the world, we would be Blind, Dumb and Paralysed, as it is other parts of the body that do those functions, and to be real, the ears don’t even understand what they “hear” it is the head (brain) that makes sense of the information coming from the ears (and all the other parts of the body!) And it is only the Head that can effectively and correctly direct and control all the other parts of the Body! So only when the various parts of the Body start working together under the Leading, Guiding, Teaching and Control of the Head can the Body perform any useful function!

I see these things so clearly, like in 3D, Technicolour and Moving Pictures, but when I try to explain it to others it like comes out in dull, grainy, 2D, poorly drawn pencil sketches! I have over the years become convinced that the only way for us to see what others see is for us to see it for ourselves. So if you want to truly see what I see then don’t ask me to show you. You need first to desire to see it, then ask the Holy Spirit to reveal it to you… And He WILL… And then you will see what I and others see and MUTCH MORE. And then you will be able to tell others and they will do the same, till we all come to the Knowledge of the Fullness of Christ.

THAT’S what I’m takin bout!

Wow God is Awesome!

I was a bit concerned about all I just wrote as it doesn’t contain any scripture references and so I typed in the last words “Knowledge” and “Fullness of Christ” and I found the scripture below, Which not only confirms that last part but ALL of it! WOW Thank You Lord You are Truly AWESOME GOD !!!

Eph 4:11 And he gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the shepherds and teachers,
Eph 4:12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ,
Eph 4:13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to mature manhood, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ,
Eph 4:14 so that we may no longer be children, tossed to and fro by the waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by human cunning, by craftiness in deceitful schemes.
Eph 4:15 Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ,
Eph 4:16 from whom the whole body, joined and held together by every joint with which it is equipped, when each part is working properly, makes the body grow so that it builds itself up in love.

Reference: http://www.e-sword.net/

AMEN!

Thought this was worth rebloging

mikewitherden

My current studies are most interesting and for one of the Church History assignments, I am writing an essay on Pentecostalism, so I have had to go down to the “Roots” – Pentecost in the Old Testament as well as the start of the Church during Pentecost, as explained in the New Testament.

However, the interesting part came when looking at the origins and history of the modern Pentecostal Movement and its many “flavours”, for example… the Jesus Only movement, the Assemblies of God movement and Watchman Nee’s movement and so on. All have a “Pentecostal” flavour… yet… seem so far apart…

Now here is the thing… during these recent studies I have had several revelations… and one just this morning… and here it is:

First, a while back, I had a revelation re the Fruit of the Spirit…

It has always been taught to me and/or I have always…

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